Dr Fager had take you breath away speed. A horse that was as fast as he was is amazing that he could get 10f. He was not Artax, but Artax coule not get a mile either
He more than proved that in the 1 1/2 mile JCGC race with Exceller. He seem to be more of a miler as a 3 year old But was without a doubt in my mind was much stronger as a 4 year old. I think his record shows that. I have made excuses for Slew & many horses of why I think they lost. IMO Exceller was in no way a better horse than Slew. Slew ran to fast a pace in that race, way to fast And even though he almost won there just was not quite enough gas left in him to win. He was a stayer.
We will probably disagree more than agree But that is not a problem with me at all. What annoys me is when some on here makes some claims based on theories when there is pretty good facts out there that totally knocks there theories into the water. I am a fan of Slew, Secretariat, Easy Goer, Dr. Fager & many more. Like I said before you are a very fine minded person. I do not want any of these horses or any to be distorted. Slew was a stayer. Cont.
Agreed. Cruguet didn't imply that Slew was inferior, he stated that the competitive nature of the '78 DC International was better than anything he'd ever experienced on the track. I understand that. What I don't understand is why he didn't think Slew wasn't much more than a pure miler. He loved to run on the lead, but I think Slew could have won from anywhere; he was that good. Yes, that '78 JCGC blows the '78 DC Int. away in comaprison; that race is one of the best of all time.
I believe Cruguet was not imply that Mac Diarmida was a better horse than Slew at all. Just a better race not the biggest race he had. He would have said different I think if he was aboard Slew when he lost to Exceller by a nose.I watched that race on youtube he had with Mac. It was a very good race But nowhere compared to the JCGC. The rides he had with Slew were fairly easy.
2. @rscarbro100 Fair Enough. I ought to get sleep more and clear my head a bit. Forgive me for my confusion at your intentions. Cordero was bang on with his estimation of Slew; he was the best horse he was ever blessed to ride. He'd certainly be a great option to have if one's life depended on it. I know who I would pick, with all horses at their level best, though. (grin).
Peace.
1. @rscarbro100 Sensitive, no. Annoyed/confused at your insistence on posting a direct quote, yes. I really didn't know if you were being snarky with me or not. What I am really tired of is remaining mostly silent, and then when I do show any sort of disagreement, I am often psychoanalyzed to be sensitive or even insensitive. Am I not entitled my own opinion? I meant that his comments smacked of sour grapes towards the handlers, not Slew. It comes off as petty to disregard the Triple Crown wins.
I might also post the statement made by Angel Cordero about Seattle Slew.
Quote: Of all the horses to ride if my life depended on it to win I would take Slew. Hope that one did not annoy you.(smile). You have been a very fair person here And appreciate it very much.
My, My you are very sensitive. I don't believe it was sour grapes. Read the inerview he had with Cynthia Brisola published in nov/dec 2009.at the International Horse Racing Digest. He was asked this very question. You know he lost his ride by the statement he made why Slew lost at Patterson about the training. It is some good reading. He said Slew could have won the Travers And would have won everything. Don't think he had anything against the horse.
I'm annoyed at why you felt it necessary to post the direct quote by Cruguet...as I said, I never doubted the truth of any of his statements, I just don't agree with some of them. That said, he was absolutely right about Slew being short for the Paterson. Thankfully, Cordero turned out to be a great replacement.
Cruguet saying his best race was aboard Mac Diarmida is surprising. Great thrill for him, no doubt, but the Triple Crown had to be bigger. Sounds like sour grapes to me.
Jean said about the same in the articles from Los Angeles Times. Quote:
"Seattle Slew was a top mile horse with a lot of speed," Cruguet said. "That speed carried him farther as the races got longer. I thought he was better as a 4-year-old than he was at 3." He also stated his best race was with Mac Diarmida in that D.C. International race at Laurel.
I found Cruguet's opinion of Slew to be curiously on the negative side, especially stating that Slew was a pure miler, & not necessarily a stayer. I simply disagree with that statement; Slew was one of those rare horses that could do anything. IMHO.
Yes, Hoist The Flag only ran 6 times, & was amazing, but I never implied that Cruguet lied about anything. I've read all about his statements on both horses. He seemed somewhat underwhelmed with Slew, & it eventually cost him the mount.
I knew it was Hoist the Flag But a mental error since I had so much on my mind. I just came on here to correct the mistake. Thanks so much. What makes you think his opinion was curious? Hoist the Flag only ran I believe 6 times hardly not enough racing to even make an opinion & lost one of those. Did run a 7 furlong in 1:21. I will give Cruguet the benefit of the doubt & see no reason why he would have lied about it.
crazyhorseyhart Says:
2/04/2012 4:51:22 AM
my horse is Seattle slews grandson. no joke. his name is puma and hes really fast and looks exactly like Seattle slew
pelle31 Says:
27/07/2011 5:12:00 AM
Is there a Stakes race named after Seattle Slew? If not, is there a known reason?
Venckman Says:
21/07/2011 2:01:15 AM
Pacesetter For the Moment went on to have a Hall of Fame career as a show jumper. Not a Triple Crown, but it ain't hay either.
MrGabeismyBabe Says:
16/06/2011 12:01:13 PM
There's a book on Seabiscuit, a book on Secretariat... What about Seattle Slew?
Wondermouth1 Says:
10/06/2011 7:00:57 PM
Seattle Slew vs Spectacular Bid....That would have been one hell of a race!!!
totallydoesntmatter Says:
15/04/2011 4:39:45 PM
Slew was awesome and turned out to be one hell of a sire !!!!!!!!!
jetshull Says:
5/03/2011 6:21:15 AM
i wonder where giboulee finished i remember this horse, he raced outta toronto canadian champ.
monte2115 Says:
5/02/2011 9:56:55 PM
Dr Fager had take you breath away speed. A horse that was as fast as he was is amazing that he could get 10f. He was not Artax, but Artax coule not get a mile either
rscarbro100 Says:
15/09/2010 12:56:04 PM
He more than proved that in the 1 1/2 mile JCGC race with Exceller. He seem to be more of a miler as a 3 year old But was without a doubt in my mind was much stronger as a 4 year old. I think his record shows that. I have made excuses for Slew & many horses of why I think they lost. IMO Exceller was in no way a better horse than Slew. Slew ran to fast a pace in that race, way to fast And even though he almost won there just was not quite enough gas left in him to win. He was a stayer.
rscarbro100 Says:
15/09/2010 12:49:35 PM
We will probably disagree more than agree But that is not a problem with me at all. What annoys me is when some on here makes some claims based on theories when there is pretty good facts out there that totally knocks there theories into the water. I am a fan of Slew, Secretariat, Easy Goer, Dr. Fager & many more. Like I said before you are a very fine minded person. I do not want any of these horses or any to be distorted. Slew was a stayer. Cont.
cf1970 Says:
14/09/2010 5:20:14 AM
Agreed. Cruguet didn't imply that Slew was inferior, he stated that the competitive nature of the '78 DC International was better than anything he'd ever experienced on the track. I understand that. What I don't understand is why he didn't think Slew wasn't much more than a pure miler. He loved to run on the lead, but I think Slew could have won from anywhere; he was that good. Yes, that '78 JCGC blows the '78 DC Int. away in comaprison; that race is one of the best of all time.
rscarbro100 Says:
14/09/2010 2:20:27 AM
I believe Cruguet was not imply that Mac Diarmida was a better horse than Slew at all. Just a better race not the biggest race he had. He would have said different I think if he was aboard Slew when he lost to Exceller by a nose.I watched that race on youtube he had with Mac. It was a very good race But nowhere compared to the JCGC. The rides he had with Slew were fairly easy.
cf1970 Says:
13/09/2010 11:44:38 PM
2. @rscarbro100 Fair Enough. I ought to get sleep more and clear my head a bit. Forgive me for my confusion at your intentions. Cordero was bang on with his estimation of Slew; he was the best horse he was ever blessed to ride. He'd certainly be a great option to have if one's life depended on it. I know who I would pick, with all horses at their level best, though. (grin). Peace.
cf1970 Says:
13/09/2010 11:39:01 PM
1. @rscarbro100 Sensitive, no. Annoyed/confused at your insistence on posting a direct quote, yes. I really didn't know if you were being snarky with me or not. What I am really tired of is remaining mostly silent, and then when I do show any sort of disagreement, I am often psychoanalyzed to be sensitive or even insensitive. Am I not entitled my own opinion? I meant that his comments smacked of sour grapes towards the handlers, not Slew. It comes off as petty to disregard the Triple Crown wins.
rscarbro100 Says:
13/09/2010 9:13:07 PM
I might also post the statement made by Angel Cordero about Seattle Slew.
Quote: Of all the horses to ride if my life depended on it to win I would take Slew. Hope that one did not annoy you.(smile). You have been a very fair person here And appreciate it very much.
rscarbro100 Says:
13/09/2010 9:02:50 PM
My, My you are very sensitive. I don't believe it was sour grapes. Read the inerview he had with Cynthia Brisola published in nov/dec 2009.at the International Horse Racing Digest. He was asked this very question. You know he lost his ride by the statement he made why Slew lost at Patterson about the training. It is some good reading. He said Slew could have won the Travers And would have won everything. Don't think he had anything against the horse.
cf1970 Says:
13/09/2010 5:57:43 PM
I'm annoyed at why you felt it necessary to post the direct quote by Cruguet...as I said, I never doubted the truth of any of his statements, I just don't agree with some of them. That said, he was absolutely right about Slew being short for the Paterson. Thankfully, Cordero turned out to be a great replacement. Cruguet saying his best race was aboard Mac Diarmida is surprising. Great thrill for him, no doubt, but the Triple Crown had to be bigger. Sounds like sour grapes to me.
rscarbro100 Says:
12/09/2010 10:42:44 AM
Jean said about the same in the articles from Los Angeles Times. Quote:
"Seattle Slew was a top mile horse with a lot of speed," Cruguet said. "That speed carried him farther as the races got longer. I thought he was better as a 4-year-old than he was at 3." He also stated his best race was with Mac Diarmida in that D.C. International race at Laurel.
cf1970 Says:
11/09/2010 4:34:36 PM
I found Cruguet's opinion of Slew to be curiously on the negative side, especially stating that Slew was a pure miler, & not necessarily a stayer. I simply disagree with that statement; Slew was one of those rare horses that could do anything. IMHO. Yes, Hoist The Flag only ran 6 times, & was amazing, but I never implied that Cruguet lied about anything. I've read all about his statements on both horses. He seemed somewhat underwhelmed with Slew, & it eventually cost him the mount.
rscarbro100 Says:
11/09/2010 4:14:39 PM
I knew it was Hoist the Flag But a mental error since I had so much on my mind. I just came on here to correct the mistake. Thanks so much. What makes you think his opinion was curious? Hoist the Flag only ran I believe 6 times hardly not enough racing to even make an opinion & lost one of those. Did run a 7 furlong in 1:21. I will give Cruguet the benefit of the doubt & see no reason why he would have lied about it.