lol . you seemed to forget just another triple crown winner named Count Fleet . he won Belmont Stakes by 25 lengths . still ... no real horse could have beat Secretariat in that '73 Belmont . my opinion .
Both were amazing horses, along with Man O' War. I would have loved to see all 3 in a race. which one would win? I would have to say Secretariat, but Man O' War and Seabiscuit would not be far behind.
Neither Hillebrand's book nor the movie mention Kayak II, Charles S. Howard's Argentine import which won the '39 'Cap while Seabiscuit was out with his injury.
For the '40 'Cap Howard entered both horses, declaring for Seabiscuit. Instead of a "joint entry" of today (meaning either would pay off on a bet), Santa Anita then had "declaring," meaning if both horses stood a chance of winning the jockeys were instructed to allow the declared horse to win. Which is what happened.
You really must read the book Seabiscuit if you haven't already. It is superbly written. Seabiscuit's jockey, Red Pollard, and his trainer, Tom Smith, were also heroes in this story, and even his owner, Charles Howard, for putting his faith in Pollard and Smith.
Great video to watch! My grandparents' house was about 2 miles from Santa Anita and granddad used to take my mom and aunt over to Santa Anita to watch "The Biscuit" run. I heard many stories of Seabiscuit as a kid.
I've been handicapping for 40 years. SB was a great horse, but Sec would have demolished him. Sec's times at 1 3/16, at 1 1/4 and at 1/ 1/2 were at least 10 lengths faster than SB. SB beat a phenominal horse in WA, but that was mainly because SB trained for and got the early lead that WA needed. That wouldn't have worked with Sec, who won from anywhere. But so what? SB wasn't famous because of being historically fast but because of his gutsiness and compelling story. That's enough for me.
One thing you have to look at when you compare Seabiscuit to Secretariat was that when Seabiscuit was really rolling, he was already too old to be in the Triple Crown Races. He won this race when he was seven years old which is a long time for a race horse. Secretariat only ran until he was three and had won the Triple Crown. Seabiscuit beat the Triple Crown winner of 1937 War Admiral in 1938 when Biscuit was already five. Biscuit is the greatest in my humble opinion. :)
Look at the huge crowd in the grandstand ! You don't get big crowds like that anymore.
Horse racing has lost alot of popularity in the last 20 years.
Seabiscuit is my hero, as far as athletes go.
What a fantastic video, thanks for bringing this to us, I watched the movie again last night and realized that we don't give this horse as much credit as he deserved, even though it has been many years ago, Michele
the real question is who would have won between Secretariat and Man O War....truly the two greatest race horses of all time....Man O War won the Belmont by 20 lengths (vs. Secretariat's 31 lengths), and won another race by over 100 lengths! OUTSTANDING :)
Yes, it's true. Read the book; it's fascinating not just as a story of an incredible racehorse, but it vividly captures the people and the era in which he became an icon.
I love Secretariat,he is my 2nd fav horse....Seabiscuite was/is best becoz of his big heart (great soul)......its very hard to stand back on youe feet after so much hate and damage. Seabiscuite is a model to all the underdogs that there is a 2nd chance.....never give up.)
In the movie, Seabiscuit & Red won this race after sustaining substantial injuries and being told neither of them would ever race again. Is that true and is this that race?
bulllea Says:
20/06/2012 6:44:51 AM
lol . you seemed to forget just another triple crown winner named Count Fleet . he won Belmont Stakes by 25 lengths . still ... no real horse could have beat Secretariat in that '73 Belmont . my opinion .
Davis4037 Says:
14/03/2012 12:12:52 PM
Both were amazing horses, along with Man O' War. I would have loved to see all 3 in a race. which one would win? I would have to say Secretariat, but Man O' War and Seabiscuit would not be far behind.
WhiteCamry Says:
6/03/2012 7:14:23 AM
Neither Hillebrand's book nor the movie mention Kayak II, Charles S. Howard's Argentine import which won the '39 'Cap while Seabiscuit was out with his injury. For the '40 'Cap Howard entered both horses, declaring for Seabiscuit. Instead of a "joint entry" of today (meaning either would pay off on a bet), Santa Anita then had "declaring," meaning if both horses stood a chance of winning the jockeys were instructed to allow the declared horse to win. Which is what happened.
monroe444444 Says:
19/02/2012 8:16:00 AM
You really must read the book Seabiscuit if you haven't already. It is superbly written. Seabiscuit's jockey, Red Pollard, and his trainer, Tom Smith, were also heroes in this story, and even his owner, Charles Howard, for putting his faith in Pollard and Smith.
deserthorses5 Says:
21/01/2012 10:00:21 AM
Great video to watch! My grandparents' house was about 2 miles from Santa Anita and granddad used to take my mom and aunt over to Santa Anita to watch "The Biscuit" run. I heard many stories of Seabiscuit as a kid.
mulgrum Says:
10/11/2011 2:40:18 PM
I've been handicapping for 40 years. SB was a great horse, but Sec would have demolished him. Sec's times at 1 3/16, at 1 1/4 and at 1/ 1/2 were at least 10 lengths faster than SB. SB beat a phenominal horse in WA, but that was mainly because SB trained for and got the early lead that WA needed. That wouldn't have worked with Sec, who won from anywhere. But so what? SB wasn't famous because of being historically fast but because of his gutsiness and compelling story. That's enough for me.
darkfey1963 Says:
31/07/2011 7:21:26 AM
Biscuit and Red's last ride.Very moving;thank you for posting it!
illmadeknight Says:
26/07/2011 6:06:58 PM
One thing you have to look at when you compare Seabiscuit to Secretariat was that when Seabiscuit was really rolling, he was already too old to be in the Triple Crown Races. He won this race when he was seven years old which is a long time for a race horse. Secretariat only ran until he was three and had won the Triple Crown. Seabiscuit beat the Triple Crown winner of 1937 War Admiral in 1938 when Biscuit was already five. Biscuit is the greatest in my humble opinion. :)
cheeriosinabowl Says:
25/04/2011 4:36:13 AM
Look at the huge crowd in the grandstand ! You don't get big crowds like that anymore. Horse racing has lost alot of popularity in the last 20 years. Seabiscuit is my hero, as far as athletes go.
8mmoore1 Says:
20/03/2011 12:58:34 PM
What a fantastic video, thanks for bringing this to us, I watched the movie again last night and realized that we don't give this horse as much credit as he deserved, even though it has been many years ago, Michele
witchblue Says:
18/03/2011 9:26:31 AM
Seabiscuit is my HERO. His story is immortal. Incredible horse, thank for being existed.
denabluechicken Says:
30/01/2011 5:30:49 AM
the real question is who would have won between Secretariat and Man O War....truly the two greatest race horses of all time....Man O War won the Belmont by 20 lengths (vs. Secretariat's 31 lengths), and won another race by over 100 lengths! OUTSTANDING :)
whitethronebooks Says:
10/01/2011 1:48:22 AM
For many years, this was the Kentucky Derby of the West Coast.
lpriebe31 Says:
8/10/2010 4:24:33 AM
Yes, it's true. Read the book; it's fascinating not just as a story of an incredible racehorse, but it vividly captures the people and the era in which he became an icon.
aliabideen Says:
23/09/2010 7:52:25 AM
I love Secretariat,he is my 2nd fav horse....Seabiscuite was/is best becoz of his big heart (great soul)......its very hard to stand back on youe feet after so much hate and damage.
Seabiscuite is a model to all the underdogs that there is a 2nd chance.....never give up.)
aliabideen Says:
23/09/2010 7:47:23 AM
yes...movie is base on reality.Its like a documentry.
shezcurvi Says:
14/09/2010 4:18:29 AM
Good Lord, look at the dusty track back in those days! Horsemen wouldn't stand for that now. lol
contraloop Says:
23/08/2010 1:42:52 AM
A horse with 52kg (I hope this figure is right) on his back, and an healed from a front ligament injury including a jockey at that age is amazing.
1ktluvsu Says:
14/07/2010 3:33:28 AM
In the movie, Seabiscuit & Red won this race after sustaining substantial injuries and being told neither of them would ever race again. Is that true and is this that race?
pferdefan121 Says:
9/02/2010 10:54:10 AM
he was the best...a wunderfull horse.you will always remain in our heart.